What’s wrong with this model?

Jim Nunn · 01-09-2007, 01:58 AM

I have been building GPM’s Brummbär and have found a few errors. These errors are on the rear of the model (there is more then one) I didn’t discover them until I had finished the assembly so only one of them will be corrected.

One POTB to those who can tell us what these errors are.

Jim Nunn

POTB = Pat On The Back

ShaunGamer · 01-09-2007, 06:22 AM

Well the Muffle doesn't look right for starters . . .Should that vertical pipe be there? And whats with the other brown piece?

**Texman** · 01-09-2007, 10:54 AM

The drive wheel axles are pointing inboard instead of outboard.

Ray

barry · 01-09-2007, 11:20 AM

How do you shut the lid ?

Jim Nunn · 01-09-2007, 11:26 AM

ShaunGamer

You are in the ballpark.

Ray

Those are the tensioners for the Track Idlers and are correct

Jim Nunn

Bowdenja · 01-09-2007, 11:35 AM

I'm with barry........... no hole for the pipe, or pipe is not located correctly to line up with cover hole.

dwgannon · 01-09-2007, 12:07 PM

I am going to go with the exhust pipe is on the wrong side.

**Texman** · 01-09-2007, 12:40 PM

Ehh, I'm an airplane guy. Their are only two types of armor to me.
Not smoking = Target. Smoking = Was a target. Only ID features I got to work with!

Ray

Bluenoser · 01-09-2007, 01:46 PM

I'm not an armor guy either. I'm not really sure what I'm looking at in this picture. But it does look as though the horizontal pipes have filler caps on their ends. If this is what they are, you're gonna have one hell of a time trying to pour anything into them in that position.

Stev0 · 01-09-2007, 06:36 PM

I have this GPM model ... I gotta know!!!

charliec · 01-09-2007, 11:03 PM

I think it's the main engine muffler - the two horizontal tubes are the exhaust pipes from each bank of the V-engine so they should go through the rear hull
with the vertical pipe pointing backwards at about 20deg from the vertical.

I'm not sure about the idler wheel stub axles - I thought they were positioned further outwards so the edge of the stub axle assembly was against the side plates of the hull.

I thought the auxiliary engine muffler was a cylindrical one held on with a couple of straps

Regards,

Charlie

cmdrted · 01-09-2007, 11:16 PM

That little muffler is for a turret motor exhaust, no turret on the Brumbars!

**ekuth** · 01-09-2007, 11:30 PM

Yup, exhaust pipe is on the wrong side- should match the circular hole on the lid.

cmdrted · 01-09-2007, 11:38 PM

And I think the main exhaust is backwards and should have those 2 horizontal pipes exiting from the engine compartment. Back in the day that i had vision I used to build 1/76 scale afvs, any medium, plastic, resin, metal and card. Here's a pic of my converted Airfix panzer IV hull with Italieris early Brummbar upper, with homemade Zimmerit. Which was burned into the plastic with a hot knife.

cmdrted · 01-09-2007, 11:55 PM

Actually I think I had it wrong at the time also. Those 2 small horizontal exhaust on the main muffler are supposed to be there, the vertical one is not. I rummaged a pic on dogpile from a european tank museum which shows this. Darn i have to retro fit those puppies on the old airfix beast from the last pic. Where's those magnifiers???

01-09-2007, 06:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
ShaunGamer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tropical Australia Posts: 115	Well the Muffle doesn't look right for starters . . .Should that vertical pipe be there? And whats with the other brown piece? __________________ ShaunGamer http://www.papertigerarmaments.com/

01-09-2007, 10:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
Texman Lilliput Transportation Card Models Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,021	The drive wheel axles are pointing inboard instead of outboard. Ray __________________ Don't Squat with yer spurs on.....its gonna hurt

01-09-2007, 11:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
barry Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brighton Uk Posts: 2,645	How do you shut the lid ? __________________ Barry HMS Starling, Spruance, TSR2, Tarawa

01-09-2007, 11:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jim Nunn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 406	ShaunGamer You are in the ballpark. Ray Those are the tensioners for the Track Idlers and are correct Jim Nunn __________________ Keep the peace(es).

01-09-2007, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bowdenja Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ridgeland, MS Posts: 3,217	I'm with barry........... no hole for the pipe, or pipe is not located correctly to line up with cover hole. __________________ I am patient........I just want it now Chuck the aggravating stuff........build more models! You know.......... if you don't pi$$ off somebody once in a while you are too politcally correct. The Modeler is his worst critic

01-09-2007, 12:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
dwgannon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hoffman Estates,IL Posts: 481	I am going to go with the exhust pipe is on the wrong side. __________________ DWG (AKA Dave G) Hoffman Estates, IL (USA) {{ RPM - Redneck Paper Modeler }}

01-09-2007, 12:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Texman Lilliput Transportation Card Models Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,021	Ehh, I'm an airplane guy. Their are only two types of armor to me. Not smoking = Target. Smoking = Was a target. Only ID features I got to work with! Ray __________________ Don't Squat with yer spurs on.....its gonna hurt

01-09-2007, 01:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bluenoser Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 225	I'm not an armor guy either. I'm not really sure what I'm looking at in this picture. But it does look as though the horizontal pipes have filler caps on their ends. If this is what they are, you're gonna have one hell of a time trying to pour anything into them in that position.

01-09-2007, 06:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Stev0 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hfx, NS, Canada Posts: 2,022	I have this GPM model ... I gotta know!!! __________________ Download my projects today R5Unit EG-6 Droid Stubby Z34 Speedy Buggy If I find these files or a printed version on eBay, I personally will rip the seller's censored* - Anonymous*

01-09-2007, 11:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
charliec Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,047	I think it's the main engine muffler - the two horizontal tubes are the exhaust pipes from each bank of the V-engine so they should go through the rear hull with the vertical pipe pointing backwards at about 20deg from the vertical. I'm not sure about the idler wheel stub axles - I thought they were positioned further outwards so the edge of the stub axle assembly was against the side plates of the hull. I thought the auxiliary engine muffler was a cylindrical one held on with a couple of straps Regards, Charlie

01-09-2007, 11:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
cmdrted Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Avondale,Pa. USA Posts: 1,993	That little muffler is for a turret motor exhaust, no turret on the Brumbars!

01-09-2007, 11:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
ekuth Card Models Moderator Card Models Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 984	Yup, exhaust pipe is on the wrong side- should match the circular hole on the lid. __________________ "Learning to fly is simply a matter of forgetting to hit the ground." -Paraphrased from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

01-09-2007, 11:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
cmdrted Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Avondale,Pa. USA Posts: 1,993	Actually I think I had it wrong at the time also. Those 2 small horizontal exhaust on the main muffler are supposed to be there, the vertical one is not. I rummaged a pic on dogpile from a european tank museum which shows this. Darn i have to retro fit those puppies on the old airfix beast from the last pic. Where's those magnifiers???

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