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That's awesome!!! Someday I would like to be able to do this and have results half as good as you. Thanks for sharing.
Mike
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After the initial shock,we did get into taking some pictures which I'm currently uploading---I'll post these photos soon---Thanks again---Nutbar |
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You might have to put some real snow on the layout for her to run through
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I don't think so, Russ: in fact, near the end of steam, most locos that got painted looked like dip-jobs, all glossy black. When painting steam locos, I generally use four different versions of "black", with the cab and tender being the darkest; the boiler and smokebox front, along with the tender deck, pilot, cylinders and appliances get a lightened version of a similar colour; and the frame and running gear of both loco and tender an even lighter version. The smokebox and firebox are done with a black to which a lot of brown and grey have been added, along with some red and/or orange. I also use various mixes of clear finishes on different parts of the loco, ranging from a fairly high gloss on the cab and tender, to less glossy and almost flat finishes elsewhere, with the firebox and smokebox getting none at all. In person, the range of colours is fairly subtle, giving the impression of a recently-shopped locomotive, and is a first step in the weathering process. For some reason, some of my photos have a purplish cast to them, although my two pictures of the loco on the bridge are fairly close to what you'd see in real life.
Mister Nutbar's photos are generally clearer than mine, and have a greater depth-of-field - unfortunately, to gain that depth-of-field, the camera is set at f8, stopping down the lense enough that we had to use a portable "trouble light" as "Mister Sun". While this lightened things up considerably, it also seems to have over-emphasised the differences in colours. The picture of the loco passing Wagner Lumber is close to what you'd see if you were here. Wayne |
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"For some reason, some of my photos have a purplish cast to them"
Doctorwayne, I have noticed all of my scanned photos, whether they are from negatives, slides, or prints, are too blue. I have to take them to photoshop and adjust the level of the blue. I have scanned these using 4 different types of scanners and get the same problem, though easily corrected. With my new scanner I can adjust the levels in the software but you always have to fine tune anyway. Even my digital camera seems to be high on the blue too. Charlie |
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For the scanned photos, I usually use the colour correction options available while scanning. The purple camera pictures are a puzzle, though, as I set the camera for the light being used (fluorescent on the layout, fluorescent or incandescent in the paintshop, depending on which workbench, and incandescent on my modelling workbench). The camera seems to reset itself if I take too long between shots, and will shut off completely after 10 minutes of inactivity, requiring a completely new set-up - this is with the camera running on an adapter, not batteries, but there's no way to override it!
![]() I think I'll have to wait 'til those times when Mister Nutbar comes to visit, then take my pictures with his camera. ![]() ![]() Wayne |
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This raises another question in my mind, Wayne. I remember seeing steam when I would ride with my dad on his truck to load watermelons in the 1950's. He sold that business in 1955, and if I remember correctly steam had pretty much disappeared by 1953 or so in the California Central Valley. I don't remember a lot about the steam engines I did see on trains in the early 1950's, I was just a little kid at the time. Did the steam engines in daily use perhaps weather the way you are painting them because the heat off the boiler and firebox tended to bake a glossy black to flat faster than the color would change on a relatively cooler cab?
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Well, from the pictures that I've seen of steam locos, especially those in Ian Wilsons books on the CNR in the '50s, that's what it looks like to me. Of course, some locos were pretty dirty all over, but those that appear to be well-maintained had cabs and tender sides that definitely appeared more glossy than the boiler, cylinders, etc., and the paint also appeared to be darker. I think that the heat must've played a role in this, as it doesn't take long for the smokebox and firebox (not lagged on most locos) to lose their sheen. Nowadays, even if I were painting a loco that was to be heavily weathered, I'd use multiple colours (possibly lightened just a bit) and multiple variations in the gloss of the finish coat in the paint job, then weather over top of that.
I don't recall too much about the steam engines that I saw as a child, either - they were pretty common, whereas a new diesel was a big deal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Wayne |
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